02/02/10
NORTH FORT MYERS DESIGN REVIEW PANEL
Meeting Minutes
February 2, 2010
DRAFT-subject to approval or modification at next meeting.
I. Call to order
SCOTT J. BRENNER called to order the regular meeting of the NORTH FORT MYERS DESIGN REVIEW PANEL at 6:00 p.m. on February 2, 2010 in the Theatre Room at North Star Yacht Club, 3420 Hancock Bridge Parkway, N. Ft. Myers, Fl.
Attendance: The following Board Members were present: Scott J. Brenner, Jim Lattmann, Alec Mylan, Jack Howerton, John Gardner, Wayne Daltry, Joe Beck and Mike Land.
The following additional persons were present: Gregg Makepeace, Auxiliary Member, Bonnie Makepeace, Ron Wilder, Dick Thomas, Debbie Jackow, Tony Palermo of DCD-Zoning, Drew Fitzgerald of DeLisi Fitzgerald, Inc. and Jodi Joseph and Leslie Chapman of Morris-DePew Assoc.
II. Approval of minutes from last meeting
The minutes of the previous meeting, which had been submitted by Mike Land, Secretary, were approved as submitte. except that Joe Beck pointed out that the Note below the Minutes needed to be corrected from “Smart Streets” to “Complete Streets”, after motion by Lattmann and second by Mylan.
III. OFFICERS’ REPORTS
President Scott Brenner reminded all that there are several vacancies on our Board, and that the terms of office of all the other officers and directors would be expiring shortly, and that all in attendance should think about their own candidacy and about searching for qualified persons that would be interested in serving as an officer or member of this board. He also reported that there would be two project presentations this evening, one by Jodi Joseph of Morris-DePew Assoc. and one by Drew Fitzgerald of DeLisi Fitzgerald, Inc.
JIM LATTMANN, V. PRES. reported that the sewer plant transfer would be delayed because the tentative agreement between the parties had not been voted upon this past month, although there could be a special meeting called for that purpose. Apparently the staff of Lee County threw a monkey wrench into the schedule.
WAYNE DALTRY, ASS’T SECRETARY announced that he was presenting Certificates to those members who had completed his Boot Camp series on Planning, and he had those with him and would hand them out after the meeting. He also announced that he had retired from Lee County, had made a nice retirement speech at their last meeting which could be viewed on local television, and that he had received a Resolution of Service from Lee County.
IV. New Business
Presentation by Jodi Joseph, Planner and Leslie Chapman, Landscape Engineer and Assistant Planner from Morris-DePew regarding NOWACK CPD, a project contemplated at Pondella and McNeill consisting of 1.3 acres. Ms. Joseph said that they were here as a courtesy, soliciting our input and feedback, and that they would definitely return with detailed exhibits at a later date. Plans are to erect a new 2700 square foot building for commercial and office space, with parking in the rear, and to renovate 2 older buildings. Presenters said that they intend to use “Old Florida” architecture and to use “enhanced D buffer” to create a thicker visual screen along residential boundaries, with the existing perimeter fencing to be maintained. The owner of the project, a Mr. Nowak, has his business occupying the building along McNeill Road, and intends to continue that use, with 9 outside rear parking spaces for the owner’s trucks. Joe Beck stated that he would like to see multi use on this site with interconnectivity. Ms. Joseph did say that developer intended to use sidewalks to interconnect. Alec Mylan felt that the developer would be better served by tearing down the old building and building something bigger and nicer. President Brenner summarized that we were in favor of some new development at that site, but that this Panel was unable to affirm or deny without more before us.
Wayne Daltry stated that this is why we need to get more active in pushing for passage of our proposal as hopefully set forth in the LaRue study recommendations, and requested that the Presenters would be kind and useful if they would appear before us again. Anthony Palermo reminded us that this project had no zoning or code enforcement problems, and thus they were appearing as a courtesy and not out of necessity. Scott Brenner concluded by saying that the Panel would be more inclined to give more density in exchange for a better concept.
B. Drew Fitzgerald, engineer with DeLisi Fitzgerald, Inc. presented on behalf of Bayshore Lee, LLC, to be located in the northwest quadrant of Bayshore and I-75. This was their second visit to this Panel, and he brought some picture boards to help update us on this planned project, and stated that they would be back for a third visit before the final submission. The project involves one large building with 6 outparcels along Bayshore.
They are attempting to preserve 6 ½ acres of viable heritage trees to the north of the outparcels along Bayshore, one of which parcels has been cleared for use as a gas station. The large building will be about 260,000 sq. ft. of retail or office space, with a hotel on the 1.8 acre parcel. They intend to use the “Old Florida” architectural style on the exterior of the buildings to look like the entry to the Veranda in part.
Debbie Jackow and Wayne Daltry felt that the developer should keep the heritage trees in the middle of the project, not along the northerly boundary. Jim Lattmann suggested a pod of trees in the middle of the project. Alec Mylan observed that the deep area of heritage trees in the rear is mostly lost because one can’t see into the area very far.
IV. OLD BUSINESS– None
Upon motion by Land, seconded by Lattmann, and no objection to the contrary, the meeting was adjourned at 6:55 pm.
President Scott Brenner turned the audience over to John Gardner, Chairman of the NFM Community Planning Panel, who reminded us that we needed to compile a list of future members of both Panels, and
see that they get nominated. John reminded all of the meeting on 2/9/10 of the NFM Civic Association at the Community of Christ building. John reported that the Cape Coral meeting a week or so ago did not discuss annexation of NFM property, but they are rushing to get things done before the “Hometown Democracy” proposal gets passed on the November ballot.
Wayne Daltry said that the city officials were in a panic because of the prospect of Hometown Democracy passing which will require all future land use changes to be approved by 60% of the voters. Regarding the Zemel tract on Rt. 41 across from Herons Glen, the developer doesn’t want to put up more money needed to get the changes done. John Gardner asked us to have our questions ready for the LaRue presentation on 2/8/10, and email them ahead of time to LaRue. Wayne suggested that we run his “Complete Streets” power point presentation before LaRue makes their presentation on 2/8/10, to help LaRue request more money for a “Complete Streets” inclusion in his study and recommendations.
NORTH FORT MYERS DESIGN REVIEW PANEL
Meeting Minutes
February 2, 2010
DRAFT-subject to approval or modification at next meeting.
I. Call to order
SCOTT J. BRENNER called to order the regular meeting of the NORTH FORT MYERS DESIGN REVIEW PANEL at 6:00 p.m. on February 2, 2010 in the Theatre Room at North Star Yacht Club, 3420 Hancock Bridge Parkway, N. Ft. Myers, Fl.
Attendance: The following Board Members were present: Scott J. Brenner, Jim Lattmann, Alec Mylan, Jack Howerton, John Gardner, Wayne Daltry, Joe Beck and Mike Land.
The following additional persons were present: Gregg Makepeace, Auxiliary Member, Bonnie Makepeace, Ron Wilder, Dick Thomas, Debbie Jackow, Tony Palermo of DCD-Zoning, Drew Fitzgerald of DeLisi Fitzgerald, Inc. and Jodi Joseph and Leslie Chapman of Morris-DePew Assoc.
II. Approval of minutes from last meeting
The minutes of the previous meeting, which had been submitted by Mike Land, Secretary, were approved as submitte. except that Joe Beck pointed out that the Note below the Minutes needed to be corrected from “Smart Streets” to “Complete Streets”, after motion by Lattmann and second by Mylan.
III. OFFICERS’ REPORTS
President Scott Brenner reminded all that there are several vacancies on our Board, and that the terms of office of all the other officers and directors would be expiring shortly, and that all in attendance should think about their own candidacy and about searching for qualified persons that would be interested in serving as an officer or member of this board. He also reported that there would be two project presentations this evening, one by Jodi Joseph of Morris-DePew Assoc. and one by Drew Fitzgerald of DeLisi Fitzgerald, Inc.
JIM LATTMANN, V. PRES. reported that the sewer plant transfer would be delayed because the tentative agreement between the parties had not been voted upon this past month, although there could be a special meeting called for that purpose. Apparently the staff of Lee County threw a monkey wrench into the schedule.
WAYNE DALTRY, ASS’T SECRETARY announced that he was presenting Certificates to those members who had completed his Boot Camp series on Planning, and he had those with him and would hand them out after the meeting. He also announced that he had retired from Lee County, had made a nice retirement speech at their last meeting which could be viewed on local television, and that he had received a Resolution of Service from Lee County.
IV. New Business
Presentation by Jodi Joseph, Planner and Leslie Chapman, Landscape Engineer and Assistant Planner from Morris-DePew regarding NOWACK CPD, a project contemplated at Pondella and McNeill consisting of 1.3 acres. Ms. Joseph said that they were here as a courtesy, soliciting our input and feedback, and that they would definitely return with detailed exhibits at a later date. Plans are to erect a new 2700 square foot building for commercial and office space, with parking in the rear, and to renovate 2 older buildings. Presenters said that they intend to use “Old Florida” architecture and to use “enhanced D buffer” to create a thicker visual screen along residential boundaries, with the existing perimeter fencing to be maintained. The owner of the project, a Mr. Nowak, has his business occupying the building along McNeill Road, and intends to continue that use, with 9 outside rear parking spaces for the owner’s trucks. Joe Beck stated that he would like to see multi use on this site with interconnectivity. Ms. Joseph did say that developer intended to use sidewalks to interconnect. Alec Mylan felt that the developer would be better served by tearing down the old building and building something bigger and nicer. President Brenner summarized that we were in favor of some new development at that site, but that this Panel was unable to affirm or deny without more before us.
Wayne Daltry stated that this is why we need to get more active in pushing for passage of our proposal as hopefully set forth in the LaRue study recommendations, and requested that the Presenters would be kind and useful if they would appear before us again. Anthony Palermo reminded us that this project had no zoning or code enforcement problems, and thus they were appearing as a courtesy and not out of necessity. Scott Brenner concluded by saying that the Panel would be more inclined to give more density in exchange for a better concept.
B. Drew Fitzgerald, engineer with DeLisi Fitzgerald, Inc. presented on behalf of Bayshore Lee, LLC, to be located in the northwest quadrant of Bayshore and I-75. This was their second visit to this Panel, and he brought some picture boards to help update us on this planned project, and stated that they would be back for a third visit before the final submission. The project involves one large building with 6 outparcels along Bayshore.
They are attempting to preserve 6 ½ acres of viable heritage trees to the north of the outparcels along Bayshore, one of which parcels has been cleared for use as a gas station. The large building will be about 260,000 sq. ft. of retail or office space, with a hotel on the 1.8 acre parcel. They intend to use the “Old Florida” architectural style on the exterior of the buildings to look like the entry to the Veranda in part.
Debbie Jackow and Wayne Daltry felt that the developer should keep the heritage trees in the middle of the project, not along the northerly boundary. Jim Lattmann suggested a pod of trees in the middle of the project. Alec Mylan observed that the deep area of heritage trees in the rear is mostly lost because one can’t see into the area very far.
IV. OLD BUSINESS– None
Upon motion by Land, seconded by Lattmann, and no objection to the contrary, the meeting was adjourned at 6:55 pm.
President Scott Brenner turned the audience over to John Gardner, Chairman of the NFM Community Planning Panel, who reminded us that we needed to compile a list of future members of both Panels, and
see that they get nominated. John reminded all of the meeting on 2/9/10 of the NFM Civic Association at the Community of Christ building. John reported that the Cape Coral meeting a week or so ago did not discuss annexation of NFM property, but they are rushing to get things done before the “Hometown Democracy” proposal gets passed on the November ballot.
Wayne Daltry said that the city officials were in a panic because of the prospect of Hometown Democracy passing which will require all future land use changes to be approved by 60% of the voters. Regarding the Zemel tract on Rt. 41 across from Herons Glen, the developer doesn’t want to put up more money needed to get the changes done. John Gardner asked us to have our questions ready for the LaRue presentation on 2/8/10, and email them ahead of time to LaRue. Wayne suggested that we run his “Complete Streets” power point presentation before LaRue makes their presentation on 2/8/10, to help LaRue request more money for a “Complete Streets” inclusion in his study and recommendations.
NORTH FORT MYERS DESIGN REVIEW PANEL
Meeting Minutes
February 2, 2010
DRAFT-subject to approval or modification at next meeting.
I. Call to order
SCOTT J. BRENNER called to order the regular meeting of the NORTH FORT MYERS DESIGN REVIEW PANEL at 6:00 p.m. on February 2, 2010 in the Theatre Room at North Star Yacht Club, 3420 Hancock Bridge Parkway, N. Ft. Myers, Fl.
Attendance: The following Board Members were present: Scott J. Brenner, Jim Lattmann, Alec Mylan, Jack Howerton, John Gardner, Wayne Daltry, Joe Beck and Mike Land.
The following additional persons were present: Gregg Makepeace, Auxiliary Member, Bonnie Makepeace, Ron Wilder, Dick Thomas, Debbie Jackow, Tony Palermo of DCD-Zoning, Drew Fitzgerald of DeLisi Fitzgerald, Inc. and Jodi Joseph and Leslie Chapman of Morris-DePew Assoc.
II. Approval of minutes from last meeting
The minutes of the previous meeting, which had been submitted by Mike Land, Secretary, were approved as submitte. except that Joe Beck pointed out that the Note below the Minutes needed to be corrected from “Smart Streets” to “Complete Streets”, after motion by Lattmann and second by Mylan.
III. OFFICERS’ REPORTS
President Scott Brenner reminded all that there are several vacancies on our Board, and that the terms of office of all the other officers and directors would be expiring shortly, and that all in attendance should think about their own candidacy and about searching for qualified persons that would be interested in serving as an officer or member of this board. He also reported that there would be two project presentations this evening, one by Jodi Joseph of Morris-DePew Assoc. and one by Drew Fitzgerald of DeLisi Fitzgerald, Inc.
JIM LATTMANN, V. PRES. reported that the sewer plant transfer would be delayed because the tentative agreement between the parties had not been voted upon this past month, although there could be a special meeting called for that purpose. Apparently the staff of Lee County threw a monkey wrench into the schedule.
WAYNE DALTRY, ASS’T SECRETARY announced that he was presenting Certificates to those members who had completed his Boot Camp series on Planning, and he had those with him and would hand them out after the meeting. He also announced that he had retired from Lee County, had made a nice retirement speech at their last meeting which could be viewed on local television, and that he had received a Resolution of Service from Lee County.
IV. New Business
Presentation by Jodi Joseph, Planner and Leslie Chapman, Landscape Engineer and Assistant Planner from Morris-DePew regarding NOWACK CPD, a project contemplated at Pondella and McNeill consisting of 1.3 acres. Ms. Joseph said that they were here as a courtesy, soliciting our input and feedback, and that they would definitely return with detailed exhibits at a later date. Plans are to erect a new 2700 square foot building for commercial and office space, with parking in the rear, and to renovate 2 older buildings. Presenters said that they intend to use “Old Florida” architecture and to use “enhanced D buffer” to create a thicker visual screen along residential boundaries, with the existing perimeter fencing to be maintained. The owner of the project, a Mr. Nowak, has his business occupying the building along McNeill Road, and intends to continue that use, with 9 outside rear parking spaces for the owner’s trucks. Joe Beck stated that he would like to see multi use on this site with interconnectivity. Ms. Joseph did say that developer intended to use sidewalks to interconnect. Alec Mylan felt that the developer would be better served by tearing down the old building and building something bigger and nicer. President Brenner summarized that we were in favor of some new development at that site, but that this Panel was unable to affirm or deny without more before us.
Wayne Daltry stated that this is why we need to get more active in pushing for passage of our proposal as hopefully set forth in the LaRue study recommendations, and requested that the Presenters would be kind and useful if they would appear before us again. Anthony Palermo reminded us that this project had no zoning or code enforcement problems, and thus they were appearing as a courtesy and not out of necessity. Scott Brenner concluded by saying that the Panel would be more inclined to give more density in exchange for a better concept.
B. Drew Fitzgerald, engineer with DeLisi Fitzgerald, Inc. presented on behalf of Bayshore Lee, LLC, to be located in the northwest quadrant of Bayshore and I-75. This was their second visit to this Panel, and he brought some picture boards to help update us on this planned project, and stated that they would be back for a third visit before the final submission. The project involves one large building with 6 outparcels along Bayshore.
They are attempting to preserve 6 ½ acres of viable heritage trees to the north of the outparcels along Bayshore, one of which parcels has been cleared for use as a gas station. The large building will be about 260,000 sq. ft. of retail or office space, with a hotel on the 1.8 acre parcel. They intend to use the “Old Florida” architectural style on the exterior of the buildings to look like the entry to the Veranda in part.
Debbie Jackow and Wayne Daltry felt that the developer should keep the heritage trees in the middle of the project, not along the northerly boundary. Jim Lattmann suggested a pod of trees in the middle of the project. Alec Mylan observed that the deep area of heritage trees in the rear is mostly lost because one can’t see into the area very far.
IV. OLD BUSINESS– None
Upon motion by Land, seconded by Lattmann, and no objection to the contrary, the meeting was adjourned at 6:55 pm.
President Scott Brenner turned the audience over to John Gardner, Chairman of the NFM Community Planning Panel, who reminded us that we needed to compile a list of future members of both Panels, and
see that they get nominated. John reminded all of the meeting on 2/9/10 of the NFM Civic Association at the Community of Christ building. John reported that the Cape Coral meeting a week or so ago did not discuss annexation of NFM property, but they are rushing to get things done before the “Hometown Democracy” proposal gets passed on the November ballot.
Wayne Daltry said that the city officials were in a panic because of the prospect of Hometown Democracy passing which will require all future land use changes to be approved by 60% of the voters. Regarding the Zemel tract on Rt. 41 across from Herons Glen, the developer doesn’t want to put up more money needed to get the changes done. John Gardner asked us to have our questions ready for the LaRue presentation on 2/8/10, and email them ahead of time to LaRue. Wayne suggested that we run his “Complete Streets” power point presentation before LaRue makes their presentation on 2/8/10, to help LaRue request more money for a “Complete Streets” inclusion in his study and recommendations.